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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 06:18 AM Reply With Quote
X1 Red Bull Prototype full Reveal



The Gran Turismo site just did a full reveal of the X1 prototype developed by Adrian Newey (Red Bull Racing Designer) and Kazunori Yamauchi.

Here's the full specs:


"X1 Prototype" Technical Specifications

<Dimensions>
Length: 4.75m
Width: 2.18m
Height: 0.98m

Wheelbase: 2.9m
Front Tread: 1.85m
Rear Tread: 1.78m

<Vehicle Weight>
Dry Weight: 545kg
Wet (gross) Weight: 615kg

<Engine>
3000cc V6 Twin Turbo Engine (Direct Injection)
Maximum Output: 1106.0kw(1503.8ps)/15000rpm *1483hp
Maximum Torque: 714.1Nm(72.9kgf*m)/12000rpm

<Suspension>
Full Active Ride Suspension

<Downforce generated at the bottom by the Fan>
Maximum output 9800N(1000kgf), equal to 1.63G

<Downforce acting at vehicle speed squared due to the wings/Venturi Effect>
At 100km/h: 1044.7N, (106.6kgf) equal to 0.17G
At 200km/h: 4181.7N, (426.7kgf) equal to 0.69G
At 300km/h: 9412.9N, (960.5kgf) equal to 1.56G
At 400km/h: 16732.5N, (1707.4kgf) equal to 2.78G

Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h

Total tire load: Equivalent to 4.19G (=Gravity 1.00G+downforce due to fan 1.63G+downforce due to wing 1.56G)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates a efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering G that can be exhibited by tires: 8.25G (4.19 * 1.97)

*Specs in consideration for correspondence with diagram
Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates
an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)

<Performance Data>
0-60mph: 1.4sec
0-120mph: 2.8sec
0-200mph: 6.1sec
Maximum Speed: Over 280mph (450km/h)
Maximum Longitudinal or Lateral Acceleration at 300km/h: 8.25G

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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 06:19 AM Reply With Quote


X1 Downforce Specifications

Lets try calculating the cornering G's of the X1 at 300km/h from the total tire load and coefficient of friction for the tires.

The total load on the X1's tires at 300km/h is 1142.7kgf at the front tires, and 1432kgf at the rear tires. The coefficient of friction for the tires isμ=1.97. From these conditions, the maximum cornering force that the tires can exhibit can be determined to be 5073kgf. Dividing this by the wet weight of the X1 of 615kg comes to be 8.25, which is the maximum cornering G of the X1.

8.25G greatly exceeds the G's felt during the launch of the Space Shuttle, and is roughly the same as that of a jet fighter plane at full afterburner. It is a figure at the very limits of what a human body can withstand.

Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)

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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 06:25 AM Reply With Quote


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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 07:56 AM Reply With Quote


cyber fomula GSX:headbang:
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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 08:49 AM Reply With Quote


Nice Post, this look soo kooo!!!!



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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 09:00 AM Reply With Quote


It'll take years for it to finally release just like the game lol



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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 01:53 PM Reply With Quote


looks like cyber formula x mini 4wd!! awesome!
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[*] posted on 10-28-2010 at 04:34 PM Reply With Quote


yes cyber formula ftw. lol i can see it turning into a real ting soon lol



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i was about to post that!!!! :headbang::headbang:




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reminds me of the cars in speed racer. but why does a race car need headlights?
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reminds me of the cars in speed racer. but why does a race car need headlights?


To drive at night?




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Originally posted by mokona99
X1 Downforce Specifications

Lets try calculating the cornering G's of the X1 at 300km/h from the total tire load and coefficient of friction for the tires.

The total load on the X1's tires at 300km/h is 1142.7kgf at the front tires, and 1432kgf at the rear tires. The coefficient of friction for the tires isμ=1.97. From these conditions, the maximum cornering force that the tires can exhibit can be determined to be 5073kgf. Dividing this by the wet weight of the X1 of 615kg comes to be 8.25, which is the maximum cornering G of the X1.

8.25G greatly exceeds the G's felt during the launch of the Space Shuttle, and is roughly the same as that of a jet fighter plane at full afterburner. It is a figure at the very limits of what a human body can withstand.

Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)


What's the point of showing the math behind a virtual car?




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Originally posted by mokona99
X1 Downforce Specifications

Lets try calculating the cornering G's of the X1 at 300km/h from the total tire load and coefficient of friction for the tires.

The total load on the X1's tires at 300km/h is 1142.7kgf at the front tires, and 1432kgf at the rear tires. The coefficient of friction for the tires isμ=1.97. From these conditions, the maximum cornering force that the tires can exhibit can be determined to be 5073kgf. Dividing this by the wet weight of the X1 of 615kg comes to be 8.25, which is the maximum cornering G of the X1.

8.25G greatly exceeds the G's felt during the launch of the Space Shuttle, and is roughly the same as that of a jet fighter plane at full afterburner. It is a figure at the very limits of what a human body can withstand.

Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)


What's the point of showing the math behind a virtual car?


To show that this car can be built in real life. Seeing as how crazy RB is I would not be surprised if they built this. Don't tell me you actually think cars just start out in the factory. They start with a concept and then on a computer to see how they will perform.




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Originally posted by mokona99
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Originally posted by mokona99
X1 Downforce Specifications

Lets try calculating the cornering G's of the X1 at 300km/h from the total tire load and coefficient of friction for the tires.

The total load on the X1's tires at 300km/h is 1142.7kgf at the front tires, and 1432kgf at the rear tires. The coefficient of friction for the tires isμ=1.97. From these conditions, the maximum cornering force that the tires can exhibit can be determined to be 5073kgf. Dividing this by the wet weight of the X1 of 615kg comes to be 8.25, which is the maximum cornering G of the X1.

8.25G greatly exceeds the G's felt during the launch of the Space Shuttle, and is roughly the same as that of a jet fighter plane at full afterburner. It is a figure at the very limits of what a human body can withstand.

Test Calculation: Cornering G at 300km/h
Total Tire Load: 2575.6kgf (Front Wheel 1142.7kgf+Rear Wheel 1432.9kgf)
Coefficient of Friction of Tires: μ=1.97 (baseμ=2.16, model calculates an efficiency reduction to 91.5% under high load)
Cornering force that can be exhibited by tires: 5073.9kgf
Cornering G: 8.25G (= 5073.9kgf / 615kg)


What's the point of showing the math behind a virtual car?


To show that this car can be built in real life. Seeing as how crazy RB is I would not be surprised if they built this. Don't tell me you actually think cars just start out in the factory. They start with a concept and then on a computer to see how they will perform.



Wow dang I never knew such a thing! *shock*

It's a longitudinal stability diagram of a "paper car" taking rules of thumb type numbers. Any aero-mechanical engineer can pull it out of their asses and do a napkin sketch. Newey - "here you go GT5" *hands Polyphony another excuse to delay release* No effort to even show pictures of Fluent analysis (if they even tried)... so no i'm sorry that probably didn't even spend the 3 hours of engineering labor to go to the computer and do computer stuff...

Polyphony - BTW let's throw $$$ at Sebastian Vettel for a picture of him driving our ridiculously fast car that we hand waved on our GT5 demo revision no. 1054!

No credit unless I see at least an attempt of a representative wind tunnel model.. a finalized set release date of the game.

well props for more pretty pictures at least...




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[*] posted on 11-14-2010 at 11:13 PM Reply With Quote


i thought the picture on the front page looked like the batmobile. LOL



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8.25G greatly exceeds the G's felt during the launch of the Space Shuttle, and is roughly the same as that of a jet fighter plane at full afterburner. It is a figure at the very limits of what a human body can withstand.


So in order to "pilot" this car, the driver will need an anti-G suit?
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8.25G greatly exceeds the G's felt during the launch of the Space Shuttle, and is roughly the same as that of a jet fighter plane at full afterburner. It is a figure at the very limits of what a human body can withstand.


So in order to "pilot" this car, the driver will need an anti-G suit?


Judging by those specs.. Pretty much.




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video for the red bull racing, I<m not sure if its real or not though but anyway heres the vid go check it out : http://www.vimeo.com/16661664



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video for the red bull racing, I<m not sure if its real or not though but anyway heres the vid go check it out : http://www.vimeo.com/16661664



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